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Message started by savageone on 29. Aug 2007 at 17:38

Title: Silver battery back up caution labels??
Post by savageone on 29. Aug 2007 at 17:38
Hey all. Was just sorting through a bunch of games I'm preparing to sell when I noticed the Wizardry cart has a silver caution label instead of the standard gold label that is on games that contain a battery. Sure enough, I checked my own Wizardry cart and it has the standard gold label.

The carts appear identical with the same ID number. The only difference is the production number on the caution label itself, gold is plant 20 and silver is plant 21.

This probably isn't horribly uncommon but I didn't see a topic here or even a mention of this variation in NGD's comprehensive game list. I pretty sure this is the first time I've noticed a silver caution label. Any other info on this?

Title: Re: Silver battery back up caution labels??
Post by Dr. Morbis on 30. Aug 2007 at 19:34
Are you able to show us a scan or picture?

Title: Re: Silver battery back up caution labels??
Post by savageone on 31. Aug 2007 at 03:40
Suppose I should have done that in the first place, didn't think it was anything terribly uncommon though.

Takes a lot longer to get a reply around here than it did years back. :)

Title: Re: Silver battery back up caution labels??
Post by NationalGameDepot on 31. Aug 2007 at 04:38
Weird.  I have never seen one of those before.  Where did you find it?

Could it be sun fadding?  The label looks kinda cracky (not sure if that is a word)
~~NGD

Title: Re: Silver battery back up caution labels??
Post by savageone on 31. Aug 2007 at 05:03
It definitely doesn't look like sun fading to me. I think the cracky-ness you're referring to is just my camera flash picking up minute scratches on the surface of the label. Also, if it were sunfade, I think the red text on the label itself would be nearly gone and it appears just as vibrant as on the gold label.

It came as part of a small lot of games I got off eBay some time back from a seller here in the US and didn't get around to sorting through.

Has anyone ever seen any game with a silver caution label?

Title: Re: Silver battery back up caution labels??
Post by albailey on 31. Aug 2007 at 15:02
I'm pretty sure I've seen one before, although I havent recorded any in my database.
I keep track of Tengen and other unlicensed "back" variants because you cant swap those backs (one screw is under the label).  I've never tried tracking or collecting back variants for regular games.   However, since I have started collecting "Rev A" variants, I may change my policy. :)

I'll go through and check mine later.   Maybe take a look at the imprinted number in the top left of the back label.  That is the production facility code.  If they have different codes, the carts were produced in different locations (probably meaning a different production run).

Al

Title: Re: Silver battery back up caution labels??
Post by NationalGameDepot on 31. Aug 2007 at 18:33
Me and braveheart figured it out last night (mostly braveheart, but I was talking to him).  Someone just cleaned the back of the cart and it turned the label.  Erik tried it last night on one of his spare carts with a gold label.  He used goo gone and mr clean magic eraser and said the gold came right off and looked exactly like the one pictured above.  Mystery solved 8-)
~~NGD

Title: Re: Silver battery back up caution labels??
Post by cdb900 on 31. Aug 2007 at 18:47
Wow!  Good catch on that one.  But, I suppose, now there's no way to tell if there was every a legitimate silver label made (probably there wasn't).  But still good so no one falls for it on Ebay or something.

Thanks  :)

Title: Re: Silver battery back up caution labels??
Post by savageone on 31. Aug 2007 at 19:46

NationalGameDepot wrote on 31. Aug 2007 at 18:33:
Me and braveheart figured it out last night (mostly braveheart, but I was talking to him).  Someone just cleaned the back of the cart and it turned the label.  Erik tried it last night on one of his spare carts with a gold label.  He used goo gone and mr clean magic eraser and said the gold came right off and looked exactly like the one pictured above.  Mystery solved 8-)
~~NGD


That is interesting and it does make sense as there was obviously a name removed from the back of the cart at one time or another. (as can be seen in the pic)

Can he supply a picture of his results? I'm really interested in seeing what he got. I pulled out a spare dungeon magic cart and spent some time rubbing it with goo gone/cloth as well as a magic eraser (standard type) and the gold didn't come off even in the slightest, let alone right away. The biggest change was the sticker became slightly frayed around the edges where the cleaner worked itself into the sticker residue. Was he using goo gone ON the magic eraser??

Also, I'd like to know what game it was as there may be slight variations to the gold label itself. Some possibly have an additional layer of gloss or some such thing that would prevent the gold from coming off and would explain why my attempts on dungeon magic didn't have any results.

Hopefully I'll be able to verify it myself if worse comes to worse I'll try it on my Wizardry cart.

Title: Re: Silver battery back up caution labels??
Post by NationalGameDepot on 31. Aug 2007 at 20:09
He sprayed Goo Gone on the label and then used the eraser on it.  I will see if he can get a pic next time we talk.
~~NGD

Title: Re: Silver battery back up caution labels??
Post by savageone on 31. Aug 2007 at 21:20
Well I just let a spare canadian Dragon Warrior cart soak up some goo gone for a bit and then scrubbed the HELL out of it and yes indeed the gold did come off. However, the results were less than outstanding so I'm not quite ready to rule out the possibility of legitimate silver caution labels.

Theres a couple main reasons:
1) the edges seem nearly impossible to scrub without fraying the label by removing small portions of the sticker residue, at least with what I'm using (regular old squeeze bottle goo gone and a fairly old magic eraser)
2) The text did begin to wear off in places
3) When comparing the two the one I scrubbed has a different shine to it, looks TOO shiny if you ask me.

I took some pictures of the Dragon Warrior cart I scrubbed as well as a better quality shot of the label on the Wizardry cart itself. And a side by side of the two as well. They're pretty big so I'm moving them to the next post. You can see the amount of "silver" is pretty different. I really don't know though, check the pictures and let me know what you guys think.

Title: Re: Silver battery back up caution labels??
Post by savageone on 31. Aug 2007 at 21:20
here

Title: Re: Silver battery back up caution labels??
Post by savageone on 05. Sep 2007 at 19:57
So are we just passing this off then? I'm not one to care much about label variations but I guess I'll be holding on to the Wizardry cart since I'm not convinced it's illegitimate nor legitimate.

Title: Re: Silver battery back up caution labels??
Post by NationalGameDepot on 05. Sep 2007 at 23:20
Unless we can find more than 1 of these then I am chalking it up as cleaning fluid causing it.  Time will tell I guess.
~~NGD

Title: Re: Silver battery back up caution labels??
Post by albailey on 06. Sep 2007 at 15:13
I'll go through my carts tonight and let you know if I find any.  
Al

Title: Re: Silver battery back up caution labels??
Post by NESaholic on 07. Sep 2007 at 10:42
Interesting, i checked and mine was gold.

Title: Re: Silver battery back up caution labels??
Post by Speedy_NES on 09. Sep 2007 at 01:51
I do recall having seen a different caution label for a battery-packed game, but I think it was a standard grey one (not shiny), probably from a game where the cart was manufactured by the publisher rather than by Nintendo.  I'd go through my carts, but I'm stocked with stuff to do, so it'll have to wait a while.  

Title: Re: Silver battery back up caution labels??
Post by savageone on 13. Sep 2007 at 21:29
So did anyone who looked through their carts find a silver label whatsoever?

Title: Re: Silver battery back up caution labels??
Post by JoeUofT on 21. Oct 2007 at 06:41
I though they were always gold, too, but I just happened to find one of mine, Overlord, that is not silver, but standard grey.  Absolutely not a polished gold label, take a look.

http://instantimagehosting.com/storage/IMG_1190_Medium.jpg

http://instantimagehosting.com/storage/IMG_1185_Medium.jpg

I know it's not silver, but it was news to me, so I thought I'd share.

Title: Re: Silver battery back up caution labels??
Post by Rhett on 21. Oct 2007 at 20:56
I believe I've seen shiny silver battery packs on my carts also.  But my collection is in storage right now so I can't confirm.

Title: Re: Silver battery back up caution labels??
Post by savageone on 26. Oct 2007 at 22:52
I had noticed the Overlord cart as well, but not until just a few weeks ago. The cart also has the virgin logo embossed in the plastic at the bottom of the back side as well. A strange one that Overlord, there must be a story behind it. Makes me wonder are there any gold label Overlord carts?

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