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Prototype Question
23. Mar 2006 at 22:21

Hey I was checking out some of the prototypes on the prototypes section, and I was just wondering how you can be sure a cart is a prototype?? Most of the carts on there are just carts with the label ripped off and small labels with stuff writen on them put on. The M.C kids cart in the prototype section just has a peice of duct tape with MC kids scrbbled on it!! How do you tell? What do you look for?

I got a copy of paperboy in a bunch of games last year that had no label. It has a small sticker where the label used to be with "paperboy" writen on it in blue pen.
I highly doubt that this is a prototype cart. its most likely just a cart that had the label ripped off.
Right?

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Reply #1 - 23. Mar 2006 at 22:38

In most cases, the prototype has differences from the finalized version. Also, if you open the game up, the board is often huge, and often has stickers written on the EPROMs to designate which is the PRG and CHR.

I am not an expert on prototypes, but I'd know one if I saw one. I would wait for a response from somebody more qualified than I am on this board regarding protoypes.

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Reply #2 - 24. Mar 2006 at 03:45

Most of the prototypes are on prototype circuit boards from nintendo. The roms that nintendo uses in released games are different than rewriteable eproms. To use eproms, you have to have a board that is wired differently. I would not buy a prototype if I could not see the board, because it is easy to fake a prototype by removing the roms, rewiring the board, and adding eproms with the "proto" game on them.

If there is no difference between the proto and the final version, it is possible that someone has a blank nes proto board that they put the final game on eproms and are selling on ebay. There aren't that many blank proto boards out there though. I've been looking for them for quite a while and I only have a handful. Then there's the fact that eproms can often be dated by the company information on them and therefore that information is sometimes enough to disprove a proto.

Since I keep seeing posts on this topic, I'm going to put together a tutorial on nes dev boards so that everyone can see the different types and at least know the major differences.

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Dutch nes gamer God Member Offline Posts: 598 holland Gender:	Re: Prototype Question Reply #3 - 26. Feb 2007 at 20:00 http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/7597/12991hx2.jpg is this a real proto our crap?
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NationalGameDepot God Member Offline The NGD Game List v3.0 is DONE!! Posts: 3976 Knoxville, TN USA Gender:	Re: Prototype Question Reply #4 - 26. Feb 2007 at 20:03 It looks like a proto to me. Lift up on the stickers on the chips and see if it has a UV window underneath it. No regular games have the wires running to the board (repros do though) What game title is this anyway. ~~NGD
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Dutch nes gamer God Member Offline Posts: 598 holland Gender:	Re: Prototype Question Reply #5 - 26. Feb 2007 at 20:07 http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/7597/12991hx2.jpg is this a real proto our crap? http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/7597/12991hx2.jpg is this a real proto our crap?
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Dutch nes gamer God Member Offline Posts: 598 holland Gender:	Re: Prototype Question Reply #6 - 26. Feb 2007 at 20:10 wow that went wrong the titlle sky kid,a online seller wanted to sell it too me,under the 2 caps a strings he wants 150 euro worth it?
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Reply #7 - 26. Feb 2007 at 20:15

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he wants 150 euro worth it?

No. Protos sale for around $80-125 US bucks usually. Sometimes more popular titles sale for more, but 150 Euros is way to much for a Sky Kid IMO. If you want a proto I would suggest talking to DreamTR, has has piles of them and I am sure he would part with some if the price was right. He amazingly has probably any title you want too, lol.

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Dutch nes gamer God Member Offline Posts: 598 holland Gender:	Re: Prototype Question Reply #8 - 26. Feb 2007 at 20:20 ok thanks man, where do these protos come from anyway,not your average yard sale stuff
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Reply #9 - 26. Feb 2007 at 20:27

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In most cases, the prototype has differences from the finalized version.

It depends. Out of all my NES prototypes theres only a few thats alittle different from the retail. The rest are identical (what i've seen atleast) to the retail. So a proto isnt nessesseraly different than the retail, when it comes to how the game plays that is. The boards and chips (EPROMS instead of ROMS, some protos have ROMS tho) are different as you say.

Dutch NES gamer: That game is a real proto, im 99,99% sure of it. I know the seller, he got it in a NES lot he bought

Many of the protos come from magazines and Nintendo importers. Protos were sent out to both for reviews. Some protos also come directly from the developers.

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NESaholic God Member Offline Obscurist maximus Posts: 2450 The Netherlands Gender:	Re: Prototype Question Reply #10 - 26. Feb 2007 at 21:35 I am watching it, several of Skykid proto's are known. I wouldn't pay all to much for this one, although it may contain differences.
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