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Reply #45 - 21. Jul 2007 at 19:22
 
Not looking good, that is for sure.

Jordan I am about to answer yours PMs over at NA in a few. Sorry for the delay, been crazy busy.
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Reply #46 - 22. Jul 2007 at 16:19
 
Everyone needs to read this thread over at NA now.  It is getting more interesting by the day.
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Reply #47 - 23. Jul 2007 at 04:01
 
Read it and what a bunch of bullshit.  So his response is that he was just a lazy guy?  Wow, how heartfelt.  I skimmed it pretty quick, so unless I missed something this is a decent damper on my opinion of the scene anymore.  It's been going downhill for awhile and for a pretty respected member to ditch it is lame.
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Reply #48 - 23. Jul 2007 at 05:04
 
I am still in shock about it all.  I hope he makes good on his words and repays what he owes at least.
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Reply #49 - 23. Jul 2007 at 13:42
 
Well, INTERPOL is just an email away...

And Stan, I know how you feel man...This is the second time in 6 months that I've been ripped off.  In 3 years it hadn't happened to me before.  If I was collecting for any reason other than my love of the NES, I'd just sell my shit and be done with it.  This hobby's almost becoming too much of a hassle these days.
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Reply #50 - 23. Jul 2007 at 13:51
 
I've added my 2 cents in a letter on the main (news) page of this website. I'm surprised by how low morrale some people have, I've been ripped off twice lately by people from this very forum... in the future I won't be dealing with anyone I don't already know, on ebay I'll have to take my chances though...

Wtf is wrong with people.... they'll do anything to make a buck? no matter how they have do do it?
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Reply #51 - 23. Jul 2007 at 14:16
 
I guess greed is human nature but that is no excuse at all.  I hate a scammer and I hate someone who would steal from someone else.  With this hobby and life all we really have is our word and our ingetrity, and money can't put a price on that.  I hope Hounder realizes that and takes the steps needed to make it right with people.

Martin I am so glad you wrote that on the homepage cause I really do hope it might make a potential future scammer thing twice.  You will get caught at some point and when you do it will not be pleasant.  What Hounder done is mail fraud and he really could go to jail for it and have to pay stiff fines.  I think that is what brought him out of the clost anyways.  I sent him some emails and I know Dain and wiz both left he voice mails.  Tis a sad day for the NES community, Hounder had a nack like I have never seen for finding graet stuff and my own collection would be missing some very cool stuff if it wasn't for trades with him.
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Reply #52 - 23. Jul 2007 at 15:22
 
Yeah, I left him a voice mail, hoping to just talk to him. I'm not out to scold him or what not, but just wanted to see what's up lately as this doesn't make any sense to me. Why would someone who is a respected member of the community ruin that respect? I considered him a friend and entrusted him with admin privileges as NA (which I've since revoked for obvious reasons). This is definitely a hard pill to swallow for me as I really trusted Hounder.

I, too, understand that times can get rough, but stealing from your friends is not the answer. Had Hounder just asked me, I would have loaned him money to get out of a rut. I'd do that for a friend I trust even if it were against my better judgment (ie, knowing I likely wouldn't get paid back).

For me, it's not about the money he owes, it's about trying to pull a fast one on a community of individuals that trusted him. Granted, I'd like to get my $100 back, but more importantly, I want him to make right with all the people involved.

This community is forgiving, as we've seen to an extent with Nick, but it takes more than talk -- Hounder needs to fix what's broken, then *earn* forgiveness, which can take a long time.

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Reply #53 - 23. Jul 2007 at 17:28
 
For a new collector in the online community this kinda thing really stinks.  Of course, I always hesitate before I complete a transaction online, but we go off each others trust with these forums to help each other achieve our collection goals.  I feel bad for the people who had to go through this situation and hope it never happens to me.


Martin posted a good point about collectors, you need have a story why you collect the things you do, not just because it's valuable, that's what causes greed.  I collect Nintendo since it was the first system we had as a family, N64 since it  was the first system I purchased myself.  I have valuable things in my collection, but I would never in a lifetime use those items to scam someone.  I would like to make some money off them if I did ever sell them though.

I never delt with Hounder persoanally, but I looked at him as one of the super collectors like NGD.  It's kinda sad to see someone you thought you would like to emulate do a thing like this.  I just hope he makes good with everyone. 

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Reply #54 - 23. Jul 2007 at 18:44
 
I agree with Martin's statement, I like to have a story behind each of my games.  That means as much to me as owning some of them.  I have had so many good people help me along the way and I know were there bulk of my collection has came from so each peice means something special to me.  Several of us older guys have a different mentality than a lot of the newer collectors do.  So many people are in such a rush to get everything they don't enjoy what they have I guess.  I would love to talk to David on the phone and find out exactly what happened.
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Reply #55 - 23. Jul 2007 at 21:32
 
I have a feeling Hounder has more problems in his life than NES games. That's why yes I understand being mad at him, but why I also have some sadness. It's never fun to watch someone crash and burn. There's more behind this than some guy trying to rip off people. There's a reason.
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Reply #56 - 23. Jul 2007 at 21:57
 
Or it could be the reason why he's on his way down? the guilt of having ripped off people that trusted him?...
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Reply #57 - 23. Jul 2007 at 22:18
 
I personally don't think this is a straight scam, I think something probably did happen to the kid that he's just not talking about.  Saying he was lazy was retarded and one of the stupidest excuses I've ever heard.  It really takes someone idiotic to want to just take so much money, especially from friends, so I'd bet he's got something pretty serious going on.  Who knows, drugs maybe?  I'm not sure, but I really hate this shit.  I don't even really have an inclination to collect rarer games anymore because they're so high, but what I still don't get to this day is what in the hell has happened to this scene?  I haven't been around since the beginning but I've been here quite awhile and have seen many different people come and go.  It seems that since I've been here the whole thing has turned into an eBay business filled with tons of assholes.  To use an example I always do, and this is what drew me more to this, the SMS community is FECKING TIGHT.  Anyone even takes a manual from someone they're shit on and pretty much can forget being taken seriously ever again.  There's this one guy on eBay who was a notorious asshole and eventually got caught by eBay I believe, kicked off and then started a new account.  No one buys his shit though because we spread such a bad reputation about him and he's still trying to sell rare games he stole from people for three times their worth.  People in that scene just don't put up with the bullshit and don't do it in the first place, I really don't get what happened to the NES scene and I can't even begin to explain what I mean, things just fell apart rapidly around three years or so after I started hanging around.
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Reply #58 - 23. Jul 2007 at 22:32
 
I blame ebay Smiley
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Reply #59 - 23. Jul 2007 at 22:49
 
and the fact that the NES scene is about 10 times larger than SMS.  SMS can have a more tight nit community cause there are less people around to collect.  NES was more popular and more successful than SMS so you have to deal with more crap.  Just part of it it I guess.
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