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08. May 2007 at 13:34

did it again spendid way to much money.

spendid 90 euro for 7 carts

-gauntlet tengen licend
-indiana jones and the last crusade taito
-die schone und das biest
-alfred chicken
-joshua wisdom tree
-donkey kong jr math 5 screw
- and a asion version from konami? wanted to now more about this cart? is this from konami or pirate?
-its jellow,4 screw,and beautiful konami back,says asian version,but made in japan? also this cart is really heavy 4x a normal cart
its no multi and its called hostages?

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Stan God Member Offline ~~Grand Snake of VKCC~~ Posts: 3383 Cambodia Gender:	Re: asian expert? take a look Reply #1 - 08. May 2007 at 15:16 Looks pirated, but I need to see game pics to tell you that. Show me the game and the title screen.
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NationalGameDepot God Member Offline The NGD Game List v3.0 is DONE!! Posts: 3976 Knoxville, TN USA Gender:	Re: asian expert? take a look Reply #2 - 08. May 2007 at 15:19 It is a pirate cart, I have it. There are several games that say Konami on them but are actually pirates. ~~NGD
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Dutch nes gamer God Member Offline Posts: 598 holland Gender:	Re: asian expert? take a look Reply #3 - 08. May 2007 at 15:48 so its not from konami And these pirates used the name of konami that goes far,the got nerve pirates
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Reply #4 - 08. May 2007 at 16:46

NationalGameDepot wrote on 08. May 2007 at 15:19:

It is a pirate cart, I have it. There are several games that say Konami on them but are actually pirates.

~~NGD

its different NGD
the cart is better quality than normal one's in my opion,but the game is pirate qaulity.(scrambeld screen)
whats on it ? rescue the embassy mission from kemco!
But then its title screen says hostages,well thats even a better tittle Cheesy

i wanted to return it to the shop,but maybe ill keep it,opening it up,want to now why its so heavy?

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Reply #5 - 08. May 2007 at 20:25

These pirates are kinda the same as the welknown Supervision carts we know.
There are multi's known of but also single games, all the same label (like Supervision), only iirc there are no label diffs like Supervision has with single games and multi carts.
I had a few of these and i still have one multi with 5 or 6 games on it, not all Konami released games on it, i had a Section Z cart of it.

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dangevin Full Member Offline Nibbly Pibbly Posts: 135 Pottstown, PA Gender:	Re: asian expert? take a look Reply #6 - 08. May 2007 at 21:12 It's probably heavier because there's a 60->72 pin adapter inside, most of my multicarts have one. I got one "free" in a lot I bid on last year because it was "broken" - I just unscrewed it, reseated the old famicom rom and it worked like a charm
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Reply #7 - 09. May 2007 at 16:35

http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/5284/aaaaaaaa005ve4.jpg

i screwed it open because i thougt you where right dangevin,but no pin apdapter inside Huh

( cart still plays funny,scramble)
But 6 big black things,chips? Huh

And there are some letters written on them and i didn't do it Tongue

maybe im going to deep with this,but what i want to now is why are ther 6 chips in this cart when a normal cart has 2 Huh

Cheaper computer parts? thats the only thing i can think of? or wait stuff to take out the lock out chip?

Anybody a idea? Huh

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Reply #8 - 09. May 2007 at 20:13

Well unfortunately the scrambling is probably coming from bit rot, from those exposed eprom windows.

Anyone who knows: are there better and worse grades of eprom, perhaps a grade that may deteriorate more quickly than others? I've heard of rotted Panesian and Pirate NES carts, but most of the more "legit" unlicensed games burned onto eprom to save money are still fine. Of course, it could just be that they were made later on, in the 90's or so...and these pirated were produced in the heyday in the mid-80's.

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Reply #9 - 09. May 2007 at 20:25

dangevin wrote on 09. May 2007 at 20:13:

Well unfortunately the scrambling is probably coming from bit rot, from those exposed eprom windows.

Anyone who knows: are there better and worse grades of eprom, perhaps a grade that may deteriorate more quickly than others? I've heard of rotted Panesian and Pirate NES carts, but most of the more "legit" unlicensed games burned onto eprom to save money are still fine. Of course, it could just be that they were made later on, in the 90's or so...and these pirated were produced in the heyday in the mid-80's.

hold on,bitrot,but licend games will not face this problem im a right? Huh

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Reply #10 - 10. May 2007 at 02:53

I'm not aware of any Nintendo licensed games that have eproms in them, since Nintendo required such a large initial run of all licensed games it was simply more economical to program dedicated roms. These are permanent and won't degrade, the copper connectors will prolly fail to ambient moisture corrosion before these permanent chips "go bad."

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